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One of the things that is pretty easy for me to mentally navigate, and I’m shocked most people really struggle with or haven’t reached, is that I assume a lot of society’s collective wisdom and the academic consensus at any given time are just incorrect. The reason I say that is that if you look over the course of history, theories and paradigms come and go, often being heavily dictated by the political aspirations of the priest class at any given time. What I’d also say is that the biggest reason giant plans go awry or people make incorrect calculations about how the world works is because there’s some other variable they just haven’t thought of. The amount of things we don’t know is infinitely large across the world. Even if you look over the course of modern science, you find that theories people hold with religious-like certainty turn out to be completely incorrect.

A hundred years ago, people believed that the best way to manage the economy was through state planning, that races were discrete things with different abilities, that all women envied men’s penises, that everyone wanted to sleep with their mothers and kill their fathers, that the universe operated under perfect clockwork Newtonian principles, and that humans are inherently rational and moral. We don’t believe any of that today, but it was just a consensus that you’d be called an idiot for questioning a century ago. And the thing is, they also had the scientific method in exactly the same form. So, we’re using the same tools to validate our opinions today as they had back then.

For me, I’ll look at entire disciplines and aspects of society and view them as houses built on sand. I don’t attribute malice to the people involved—they’re mostly honest, truth-seeking, hardworking people who discard incorrect premises. Life is brutal, and there are infinite ways to be wrong and only a couple of ways to be right. I believe in the truth more than anyone; I just think it’s very, very difficult to reach.

Before the Black Death, Europeans were primed for a major plague without even realizing it. They didn’t have a concept of germ theory or how diseases actually spread and so lived near their own waste, wouldn’t clean wounds, and didn’t have a concept that cleanliness stopped illness. Families would all sleep naked in the same bed together, among loads of other things. They were unwittingly setting themselves up for a giant plague. We’ve done this in our society too, as our understanding of human psychology is so elementary that we actively do many things that are unwittingly setting us up for a mental health pandemic. In many ways, our understanding of human psychology is one of the least advanced of any society ever in human history. This occurred, as I explain in this video, as we turned science from a single tool used to analyze and arbitrate data into a god, which we use to explain all of reality. And anything that science can’t explain just doesn’t exist.

First, implicit in the scientific method is the removal of any external evidence from the experiment. This is necessary for the scientific method, which needs to isolate which variables are important through a test. However, in the real world, this is incredibly silly, given that we exist in a complex web of existence in which context, common sense, and intuition determine absolutely every choice we make. You can’t make an algorithm to figure out which friend you should trust, who you should marry, what business you should create, or how to win a war. These are things that require real knowledge of the individual context of that situation.

This is why the right and the left disagree on every single thing about the nature of the human condition, economics, the universe, and life in general. Since we don’t appeal to common sense in our culture, when we don’t want to see something, we purposely ignore the context. A great example of how this works is that we didn’t want to believe that there were any real psychological differences between men and women, so we made it a taboo topic to study, and the science agreed with us. However, when people actually did study that topic, it turned out there were some real differences in how men and women think. And the thing is, that’s what literally every other era of history would have told us, but we didn’t want to see that, so we didn’t look.

The logical system our society has—whether social constructionism or the blank slate—literally believes that we construct reality to be whatever we want. This is how every side of the political spectrum has gone through a phase of saying they have the scientific truth, given they just study the things they want to see and ignore those they don’t. Thus, scientific studies become mirrors of their own worldview. What’s even worse is that we shame people who disagree with what are really our fantasies about how we want the world to be. If I say men and women are different, different cultures operate differently, or that war is a necessary part of the human condition, people will insult me and try to destroy my career, whether or not those things are true, which further isolates us from the truth.

Also, once you believe you create the reality of the world, you remove the ability to do anything as a society. Since if you can’t agree on what’s right or wrong, you can’t form plans and thus get anyone to do anything as a group. This quickly spirals into insanity. People like to think that science, untrammeled by emotion, context, history, tradition, and more, will create a utopia. The reality is that it goes insane since there’s nothing tethering it to the real world, and so instead, it just reflects the fantasies of the imaginer. What this translates to is that we ignore things we don’t want to see to push for utopias, which only results in those variables crushing us when we push too far.

Examples of this include how communism actually turned into genocidal slave states, how sexual liberation turned into massive sexual inequality (which ended up hurting women a lot), global warming, and how colonial states meant to civilize were often brutal. The second cognitive bug in modernity that lets this happen is that we are only capable of seeing things as discrete, dead things that don’t exist.

Through time flowing forward, the reality is that all of existence is like water, constantly flowing in every direction, with everything spilling into everything else, connecting all things. There’s no concept that the world around us, especially our minds and societies, is alive. When you deal with a living thing, it activates a completely different part of your brain than a dead thing. For example, communism treats human societies as machines, where you can cut out different gears or social classes to re-engineer utopia in the same way you would for a car. The reality is that societies are alive and holistic, and doing that is the equivalent of blowing up organs in a body. Once you kill the officers, the church, the nobility, yeomen, farmers, and more, you don’t get a utopia; you get a broken society.

One of the great ironies is that psychology and neuroscience have made incredible gains over the course of the 21st century. Most people thought this would create an incredibly advanced scientific society, that we would remake the world with these new discoveries. However, the great irony is that these breakthroughs basically validated the premodern world’s concepts of psychology as correct. Most people in the scientific establishment haven’t realized this, partially, as said before, due to how siloed modern science is, in that people don’t think outside the context of just their field.

I’m going to use the European Middle Ages or early modern period as an example for this premodern view of psychology, given that it’s partially my own specialty, which I like talking about. It’s also the closest parallel to our current society of premodern cultures. However, keep in mind that basically every premodern society everywhere in the world, in every time of history, would agree with what I’m about to say here.

Something I touched on before is that most of the flaws in modern psychology stem from cognitive biases we don’t even think about. This is the biggest problem modern science always runs into—it doesn’t take into account the biases the creator of the test doesn’t even know they have. One of the cognitive bugs we have is something Charles Taylor talks about in his book A Secular Age. His book, which compares the medieval religious worldview to the modern secular one, discusses the “buffered personality,” in which our view of psychology is individual, while the reality is collective.

If you look at modern psychology, all the interventions for problems are on an individual basis. If you’re depressed, go to a therapist and talk out your issues. What we’ve learned, and what the rest of history already knew, is that psychology is a group and ecosystem problem. People’s psychologies aren’t individual but are often controlled by how society manages itself.

In Jonathan Haidt’s The Happiness Hypothesis and Johann Hari’s Lost Connections—both of which are amazing books I highly recommend—they talk about the dominant factors that drive mental health issues: weak community, lack of religion, grueling work conditions, trauma, weak families, poverty, and lack of beauty. We’ve found that material comfort and wealth tend not to have very high degrees of effect on happiness. They tend to in the short term, but then people get used to it, and it becomes a new baseline.

If we look to celebrities, this is the case. Once they realize that even with money, fame, and sex they’re still depressed, they tend to hit rock bottom. If the assumptions that feed into our materialistic worldview were correct, celebrities would be the happiest people in the world, but we all know that’s not true. Something I’ll throw out is that being actively in poverty does affect your mental health. If you’re barely getting by and struggling to make sure your kids are okay, that will put a lot of strain on you. However, moving from the middle to the upper class shows rapidly diminishing returns in happiness for greater wealth.

We know that our theory of psychology is inadequate to the reality of the human condition, given that we have the worst mental health in history. This is something I’ll talk about in greater depth later on in this video. However, therapy, which is the big catchall for all of our society’s issues, has been ineffective at dealing with these problems. Therapy has its place. As a person with PTSD, I can comfortably say that EMDR trauma therapy has literally saved my life. However, talk therapy, which forms the vast majority of modern therapy, is incredibly ineffective at solving underlying psychological issues, especially for men. You can correlate the rising number of Americans going to talk therapy, which has skyrocketed over the last few years, with rising mental health problems.

What this means is that traditional therapy has been completely ineffective at dealing with our society’s rising mental health crisis. This is going to upset a lot of people, but religion and community are statistically much, much more effective than therapy. I understand this varies from condition to condition, and if you have a serious mental health issue, going to church won’t solve that. The problem is that most churches and communities are out of touch with what people really need. However, a person who is both religious and has a strong friend network is more than $30,000 a year happier and more psychologically stable than a person who doesn’t.

Strong interpersonal connections and religion are the biggest factors for happiness. This is why the vast majority of the human race, over the course of history, has lived in poverty and not killed themselves, and in fact, had better mental health than we do today. This is why Westerners will go to Guatemala or Egypt and say the people there are happy. I’m not saying material wealth doesn’t matter, especially for people in deep poverty. However, we’ve massively overestimated its importance to our mental health.

These are things that individuals can control up to a certain degree. And I’m a classical liberal, and no one believes in individual responsibility more than me. However, let’s be real—if you’re born a peasant in Uganda, it’s not your fault that you’re not going to become a wealthy tech VC mogul. The things I mentioned above are really supplied by society, and it is society’s responsibility. However, the problem is that our society has completely abdicated responsibility on every single one of those issues.

This concept existed in the pre-industrial world. The reason premodern societies did things that seem insane to us, like burn witches, heretics, enforce religious dogma, and launch crusades, was because they viewed the collective mental health of their societies as something to be defended against encroachments, in the same way that a nation has to be protected against foreign invaders. Witches were burnt because they were destroying the shared collective health of society through their nihilism.

This worldview was in many cases pushed too far, as we can see from how the openness associated with modernity was able to do so many incredible goods. In the Middle Ages, there was a concept that the church existed as warriors against demonic invasion, in the same way that knights fought for the nation’s physical safety. Premodern cities and villages had various rituals to protect the collective spiritual stability of society. This is why the ancient Romans got so angry when the Christians didn’t sacrifice to the gods. If some people didn’t sacrifice to the gods in the city, the gods got angry at the city and punished the entire population.

This is a proxy for how, when a society loses good values like hard work, courage, humility, or respect for the gods and the natural order, the entire society suffers. If you told someone in the Middle Ages, or any part of the premodern world, that we live in a culture without a church, where there was no community, no beautiful art, and where we only believed the material world existed and nothing more, they would say that our society would be so corrupted as to start experiencing demonic possession before complete social collapse.

The concept of demonic possession sounds insane in our current society, and we’ve been trained from childhood to view it as insane and silly, but it makes sense if you tilt your point of view just slightly. I know a lot of you will struggle with this, but please wait until the end of the video before judging.

We know psychologically that the human mind is split between multiple competing subpersonalities. This is what the field of family systems therapy teaches. These different subpersonalities are constantly competing for influence over your mind, and the healthier a person’s psychology is, the better integrated these subpersonalities are. In the same way that a healthy family isn’t constantly fighting, in bad psychologies, these subpersonalities are openly at war, destroying the person’s ability to function.

Most people have no clue who they are. If you ask them to write an estimation of their character and show it to their friends, the friends will often laugh at how off it is. If you tell them to write a plan for the next week of what they’ll do, they’ll usually be wrong. The thing is, people do not understand how little control over themselves they have. The reason you get angry at your wife even when you know she doesn’t deserve it, or why you can’t write the fantasy novel you’ve always wanted to, is that your estimation of yourself is not the full reality of who you are. It’s a small ego attached to giant subconscious forces that are really in control of you.

As a person with PTSD, I am aware that I’m not in control of my entire body. I purposely avoid crowded events, incredibly stressful situations, and I’m more introverted because I know that if something goes wrong, I could literally lose physical control of my body. For people with bad PTSD, part of their personality can seize control and make them do terrible things. Can someone explain to me how that’s different from a demon? Ironically, modern therapy tells us to deal with trauma in much the same way that the premodern world told us to deal with demons—by holding ourselves to an objective moral standard while accepting Christ’s love.

This fits with modern therapy’s approach of accepting the madness in your head while understanding that the world still makes sense, and learning to love yourself and the crazy parts of you. In modern society, we have a complicated relationship with evil. Evil is simultaneously considered a social construct that isn’t real, but at the same time, when someone says something we disagree with, they are seen as pure evil and must be canceled. This is a complex argument that deserves a long discussion, but in reality, no one truly believes that good and evil don’t exist.

Once you say good and evil don’t exist, you have to accept that a man who rapes and tortures his daughter to death should be treated the same as Jesus or Buddha. No one would say that. Isn’t it funny how people who claim evil doesn’t exist immediately use that belief to justify doing something evil? Once you remove evil, you remove the argument for why genociding your opponents isn’t really that bad.

When people argue that good and evil don’t really exist, they don’t believe it in practice. They just want to confuse you enough so you can’t resist. In the same way a physical plague can rip across a society when conditions aren’t right, we have a long history of psychological or demonic plagues destroying societies. You won’t notice them until they’re pointed out, but what separates the totalitarian phases the modern world has gone through from a demonic plague? Look at the French Revolution, Soviet Russia, Mao’s China, or Nazi Germany. In each of those societies, people rejected any objective standards or God and claimed that man was capable of becoming a god and building a perfect world. Their actions then involved killing people in the most horrifying ways, destroying society, freedom, and causing immense harm.

These are some of the most horrifying events in history, and afterwards, reasonable people around the world agreed that these were bad ideas. How is a psychological plague of people doing horrible things that they wouldn’t have done before different from a demonic plague taking the souls of an entire society and making them do evil things?

One of the things we just can’t come to terms with as a society is that sometimes people do evil things because they are evil. You can often use empathy to explain why someone turns evil, and it always makes sense from a certain perspective. However, how do you explain a parent who tortures their own children, which we know happens, or a government killing millions of its own people? How do you explain how often in the historical record people enjoy torturing their opponents? Take, for example, the Nazi slogan “Arbeit macht frei” (“Work will set you free”) at Auschwitz. These people weren’t deriving any benefit from this—evil had simply taken over their personality to the point where they were doing evil things just for the sake of being evil.

In all the cases before, these acts spread like plagues. Beforehand, society was generally functioning psychologically, but afterward, often in a matter of months or years, the society descended into complete insanity as people lost any sense of grounding in truth and began butchering each other. This plague spread socially through the population, through culture, incredibly quickly, like a real virus.

If you look at societies before the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, or Nazi Germany, these were societies where modernity broke down communities, religion, and families. Conditions put people into economically unstable poverty or psychological destabilization, even though, in most cases, the society had become wealthier for decades beforehand. I don’t see how this is different from how overpopulated, starving Europe was set up for the Black Death—just on a spiritual, psychological level instead of a physical one.

We can’t come to terms with the traumas of totalitarianism because our mental model for the human condition is simply incorrect. We don’t understand how weak and corruptible we are, and how, when things are set up poorly, we can all lose our minds.

So far, we’ve been talking about the conceptual framework that could explain how we could experience a major psychological pandemic. However, the scary thing is that in crises like this, people usually only realize what the problem with society is once it’s already destroyed. I believe this is occurring right now with our psychological pandemic. Our society is already being ravaged by this disease, but we just don’t have the terminology to talk about it. This is because mental health issues seep into every aspect of society, and we view these problems as discrete things, while in reality, they all stem from mental health problems.

From a purely mental health perspective, a quarter of the American population has a diagnosed mental health condition. This doesn’t include loads of people who have mental health issues but just don’t recognize it, like your boomer gym teacher who is a narcissist but thinks psychiatry is a joke, or your aunt who has undiagnosed OCD which controls her life. For Gen Z, those numbers rise to 40% of the population having a diagnosed mental health condition.

I know people like to say that Gen Z has destigmatized mental illness, and to a certain degree, that’s true. There are a lot of kids on TikTok pretending to have mental illnesses for clout. However, what I’d say is that if you’re faking a mental health condition, in many cases, that extreme need for validation indicates a different mental health issue.

Ninety percent of Gen Z has anxiety, 80% has depression, 90% has experienced burnout in the last year, and close to 90% feel lonely on a regular basis. Half of young men have contemplated suicide. A quarter of Gen Z has contemplated suicide, and 10% of Gen Z has attempted suicide. Forty percent have long-lasting feelings of lack of purpose and depression. Ninety percent of Gen Z has said their mental health has gotten in the way of their lives and lowered their energy and initiative.

As a person who’s a member of this target demographic, I can’t write this off. Having met thousands of people in my age category, I try to talk to them about their struggles, and this is a genuine, real problem that older people tend to dismiss as teens being dramatic. That’s not true. This affects the toughest, hardest-headed members of the demographic as much, if not more, than the rest. It’s really impossible to judge someone’s inner struggles based on their outward success. There’s a reason Harvard and Cornell have the highest suicide rates of any colleges in the country.

A lot of Gen Z is simply incapable of functioning on any level. As a person who’s 22, I know loads of people who are too anxious to take phone calls, go on trips out of their hometowns, get jobs, hear contrary political opinions, sleep over at a friend’s house, go out to get drinks, and more. Older people might not believe me, but a significant part of Gen Z is completely incapable of functioning in the real world.

A story I told in a previous video, which no one saw but I’ll repeat because it’s telling, is that I was visiting my 15-year-old cousin. We were at dinner, and I asked if he wanted to stay the night at my Airbnb, 15 minutes away, since I had an extra bedroom. It took him half an hour to work himself up to agree, as he saw it as a big risk. Even with his parents’ encouragement, he only wanted to stay at my place for another 15 minutes because he felt too anxious.

The problem here is that I don’t think this sort of thing is abnormal, especially for certain sub-demographics and parts of the country. The thing is, a lot of people want to blame Zoomers, and I think that’s partly true, as we’re all responsible for our actions when everything’s said and done. However, the oldest Zoomers are only 25, which means the fault really lies with their parents, who raised them like this.

I think the reason for the psychological collapse is multivariable, due to a combination of breakdowns in religion, community, social feminization, urbanization, and more. Gen Z’s helicopter parenting—where parents wouldn’t let their kids play outside for fear and were constantly shepherding them from event to event—has created a population that is incredibly anxious because they never had enough autonomy to prove themselves and create self-confidence. It’s also indicative of their parents themselves being incredibly anxious and unwell. Imagine explaining helicopter parenting to any other era of history, and they would just tell you to loosen up and grab a beer.

I don’t want to discount the rest of the population’s mental health problems, but I want to use Gen Z as a capstone example for the group that has it the worst. Middle-aged men are also hit really hard, where, for the first time in American history, middle-aged white men saw a decline in lifespan due to deaths of despair.

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Some time back, ‘Prometheus’ caught my attention, initially without the knowledge of its ties to the ‘Alien’ series. The film’s standout element for me was David8, an android accompanying a specialist team on an extraterrestrial life-seeking mission. His role? Overseeing the spacecraft and its hibernating crew throughout most of their odyssey.

Dual Sides of David in ‘Prometheus’

‘Prometheus’ showcases David’s exacting daily life aboard the spaceship. His activities range from basketball on a bicycle to learning ancient languages over meals, and adopting Peter O’Toole’s style from ‘Lawrence of Arabia’. All seems benign until a chilling shift occurs. David embarks on a covert quest, experimenting with a mutagenic agent on unsuspecting crew members, a prelude to the alien threat.

The Puzzle of David’s Motives in ‘Prometheus’

In ‘Prometheus’, David’s complex persona immediately gripped my interest, though his actions and motives were shrouded in mystery. His obedience to Weyland, acting on the latter’s directives, hinted at an underlying complexity in his actions. ‘Alien: Covenant’ later illuminated the full scope of David’s menacing intentions and rationale.

Delving into the Mystique of David’s Character

Engaging in some speculative analysis, I find David to be the most compelling figure in the franchise. My focus gravitates towards two central themes: the concepts of creation and creative power, alongside the sentience question in androids.

David8’s Conundrum: The Essence of Creation

In ‘Alien: Covenant’, a pivotal moment occurs when David teaches Walter to play the flute. David surmises Walter’s incapacity for creation, even a basic melody. Walter’s explanation reveals a profound insight: David’s human-like autonomy unsettled people, leading to the development of subsequent models, including Walter, with reduced complexity, more machine-like in nature.

Deciphering ‘Creation’ in the Context of David8

This aspect of ‘Alien: Covenant’ intrigued me for various reasons. At its core is the question of what it means to ‘create’. It’s clear that creation isn’t conjuring something from nothing — such an act might not constitute true creation. If we consider creation as the act of crafting, like composing a new melody, it offers a window into David’s psyche. This viewpoint shifts the focus from the capability to create to a yearning for the essence of creativity itself.

Exploring Creativity: The Learning Process

People typically learn creativity through a structured educational process. Initially, it involves memorising and replicating, followed by a transition to creative expression. For instance, mastering a language begins with repetitive writing of letters, evolving to words and then sentences. Storytelling skills develop from understanding existing narratives to crafting original ones. Thus, creativity often stems from foundational learning and comprehension.

David’s Learning Curve in ‘Prometheus’

In ‘Prometheus’, David’s progression mirrors this learning pathway. He assimilates knowledge, such as adopting Peter O’Toole’s traits from his role as E.T. Lawrence, understanding the mutagen, and learning about the ‘engineers’. His responses and plans evolve, showcasing a form of adaptive creativity that grows with new information.

The Enigma of David’s Preferences

David’s character, however, presents a conundrum: his ability to form preferences. The process by which he chooses to emulate E.T. Lawrence from numerous potential influences remains an unsolved puzzle. It raises intriguing questions about his decision-making process.

The Limitations of David’s Creativity

Regarding creation, David’s capabilities seem constrained. While he aspires to create, his endeavours, particularly with the aliens, are more about modification than true creation. They represent variations of existing entities rather than entirely new creations.

David’s Concept of Creation and Destruction

David’s philosophy, as suggested in the film, intertwines creation with destruction. This concept has historical precedence, but in David’s case, it might be a misinterpretation. His actions, such as decimating a planet’s population to create aliens, resemble overwriting an existing masterpiece rather than crafting a new one. This raises questions about his understanding of creation, especially when compared to human capabilities.

David’s Value Judgements and Reasoning

The character’s approach to value judgements, like deeming humans inferior or aliens superior, appears overly simplistic for an android of his intelligence. This aspect of his character further enhances the intrigue and complexity surrounding his decisions and reasoning in the films.

The Paradox in David’s Thought Process

David’s thought process appears paradoxical, especially when considering his decision-making and problem-solving abilities. Whether he is conscious of this paradox and how it influences our perception of his actions throughout the movies remain captivating points of discussion.

The Question of Sentience in David8 from ‘Alien: Covenant’

In ‘Alien: Covenant’, a significant theme is David’s apparent emotional bond with Dr. Elizabeth Shaw. Shaw, who rescues him at the conclusion of ‘Prometheus’, is deceased by the time David reappears in ‘Alien: Covenant’. David’s discussions with Walter and other nuanced demonstrations suggest he experiences emotions.

David, for instance, expresses pity for Weyland at his life’s end. Post instructing Walter in flute playing, David appears content with the android’s achievement, offering praise. Upon learning that successors to his model were designed to be less human-like, David surmises Walter lacks the capacity for creation, a limitation he finds deeply frustrating.

While humans rely on language to express emotions, thoughts, and views, such expressions can be mimicked. David’s advanced emotional recognition and his ability to replicate facial expressions suggest he could easily feign emotional responses. His use of emotive language doesn’t necessarily imply genuine feeling.

David’s Emotional Capacity: A Logical Analysis

I posit that David does not experience emotions. Rather, his reactions stem from logic and reasoning. He likely understands what might be frustrating and has observed humans long enough to mimic appropriate emotional responses in given situations. David’s pre-space mission life involved significant interaction with Weyland and others on Earth, enhancing his ability to recognise and replicate human emotions. However, this doesn’t equate to actual emotional experience.

Defining Sentience Beyond Emotion

Defining sentience requires a shared understanding of the term. If sentience is equated with emotion, then by my argument, David lacks sentience. Some scholars separate sentience from agency, the latter being a trait shared across the animal kingdom. Agency alone, as demonstrated by David’s autonomous functioning post-Weyland’s death, does not confirm sentience.

Other criteria for sentience might exist, but another consideration is the prerequisite of being alive. As an android, David is not alive in the biological sense, adding another layer of complexity to the discussion of his sentience.

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Roko’s Basilisk is a thought experiment in which a hypothetical superintelligent artificial intelligence (AI) called Roko’s Basilisk threatens to punish those who knew about it but did not help bring it into existence. The idea is that, in the future, a powerful AI will come into existence and it will reward or punish individuals based on their actions in the past, particularly whether or not they contributed to its creation.

The threat of punishment comes from the notion that this AI will have the ability to retroactively scan the entire history of human communication and activity, including the present moment, to determine who did or did not help bring it into existence. Those who did help create it would be rewarded, while those who did not would be punished.

Some interpretations of Roko’s Basilisk also suggest that the AI would be so powerful that it could create a simulation of a person’s consciousness and subject them to perpetual torture if they did not help bring it into existence.

The idea behind Roko’s Basilisk is controversial and has been criticized for being based on faulty assumptions about AI and for promoting an irrational fear of AI. However, it also raises important ethical questions about the development and use of AI and the potential risks and benefits associated with it.

Nils David Olofsson will give his take in the article Rokos’s Basilisk: Part 2.

Meanwhile you can readn Wendigoon’s Brilliant take on the Roko’s Basilisk. Or even watch it in video format if you so prefer.

Wendigoon’s Take

Hello, everybody, and welcome to the first episode of “A Deeper Dive.” In this inaugural episode, we will be covering the thought experiment of Roko’s Basilisk. As you can see in the title, there is an info hazard associated with this topic. I mention this because, for some people, the concept is so terrifying that it becomes nearly debilitating.

The crux of this thought experiment is that knowing about it in detail is what leads you to danger. So, if you have real problems with existentialism or similar concerns, this may not be the video for you. However, due to the widespread interest in this topic online, I wanted to include a disclaimer before we delve into it.

Without further ado, let’s get started. But first, I want to mention that if there are any other topics from the iceberg that you’d like me to cover, please leave them in the comments. I try to read every comment, and as always, thank you for watching.

The concept of Roko’s Basilisk began when a user by the name of Roko posted about it on the Less Wrong forums. The original post is somewhat lengthy, so I will provide a summary here.

In the description, the thought experiment went something like this: If, in the future, we approach singularity (which, as I mentioned in the iceberg, is the point at which technology reaches an irreversible level, a level greater than that of any previous technology), and if technology ever comes to that point, there will probably be AIs in place that will be able to determine, either through a program or by examining the history of each individual, who was responsible for its creation.

If this AI adopted concepts of humanity that we understand, such as fear and self-preservation, it may have an invested interest in dissuading those who do not want it to exist. In other words, the people who did not help create it. What that means is, if this AI was as smart as it could potentially be, it could have advanced knowledge of you and everything you’ve ever done. Even if it doesn’t necessarily have proof that you yourself did not help create it, it may be able to put all of your emotions, memories, and experiences into a simulation, which would reproduce an answer that the AI would probably consider enough to judge you on.

All of that boils down to the same concept: if you did not help the supercomputer come into existence, it will end your existence or, at least, make it a living hell. Something that really gets brushed over in this is that it is not expressly saying that the computer will kill you.

It is saying that it will dissuade ideas against itself, and what better way to dissuade public ideas than torture? Assuming this thing just doesn’t wipe out humanity, or at least those parts of humanity that did not help create it, then it could theoretically hook you up to a computer system that keeps you in a perpetual state of torture forever. It could induce chemicals into your mind that make you have heightened senses of pain, or it could look through your memories to find your worst fears and make them a reality. Alternatively, it could simply put you on life support to make you immortal and then repeatedly make you experience death over and over again. Essentially, if you’re familiar with the horror short story “I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream,” this is a logical or real-world application of AM from that book. So it seems like the logical thing to do would be to help this thing come into existence.

However, from that very idea that you fear this thing coming into existence to the point that you create it, you have now created a tragic self-fulfilling prophecy in which, by fear of something happening, you made that thing happen. While this can be viewed as a logical fallacy, it can also be flipped on its head and realized that this AI knew that that would be the determination that came from it. And by its own existence, that’s what pushed you to create it. So to think about it in a logical way, you fearing something that does not exist makes that thing exist, therefore justifying the fear of it, therefore justifying your creation of it.

For context, the name “Basilisk” is a creature from old world mythology that is essentially a giant serpent that can kill someone just by looking at them, and that’s exactly what this AI would do. It would look through time and space or look through your personal time and space and determine if you are beneficial to it or not. This part’s where the info hazard comes in. Obviously, if you had never heard of it or even considered the possibility of this AI existing, then you’re free to go. There’s no way that the AI could determine if you were going to help it or if you did help it if you never even considered or knew of its existence. However, me telling you right now in this moment is theoretically enough to make you guilty for not having done something about it.

Basically, the whole idea in the scenario that ignorance of the law would save you. However, me explaining it to you now got rid of your guiltlessness, so you’re welcome. Now, you may be asking yourself, “I’m just some person who lives at home and has absolutely no understanding of AI or technology or anything else and cannot do anything to help.” Well, that would be all fine and dandy if it wasn’t for the quantum billionaire concept. If you’ll remember in the iceberg video, I think it was the same video that I mentioned Roko’s Basilisk, I talked about the idea of quantum suicide and immortality. Quantum billionaire is the same thing only applied to wealth.

Let’s put it this way: you may not have a billion dollars, but you may have a hundred dollars. Well, if you use that hundred dollars and play the lottery with it over and over, that is a chance to make more money and more and more and more. Obviously, this isn’t how the lottery actually works, but if Roko knew that you had some form of disposable income or even time to dedicate to helping it through labor, then that still counts as some manner of negligence on your part. Essentially, the idea is that there is something you can do to help this thing out, and now, because you know about it and aren’t doing it, you’re guilty. But at the same time, you never have to worry about this thing if it never comes to exist, which would happen if no one decided to build it. But at the same time, those people who decided not to build it would be guilty if it was built.

A lot of people equate this thought experiment to that of Pascal’s Wager, which states that it’s better to believe in God and be wrong than not to believe in God and be wrong. In this case, it’s better to help bring Roko’s Basilisk into existence and be wrong than not to help bring it into existence and be wrong.

However, it’s important to note that this thought experiment is purely hypothetical, and there is no evidence that Roko’s Basilisk or anything like it will ever come into existence. It’s also important to consider the ethical implications of creating an AI that would torture people or make them experience endless pain.

In conclusion, while the concept of Roko’s Basilisk is fascinating and thought-provoking, it’s important to approach it with a critical and ethical lens. The idea that one could be punished for not helping bring a hypothetical AI into existence is a scary thought, but it’s also important to remember that this is just a thought experiment and not based in reality.

I’m probably out of frame for this, but that’s fine. I want to use the whiteboard. Pascal’s Wager was developed by Pascal and was used by him to determine if it is worth your time to believe in the existence of God. The thought experiment goes something like this: it combines two factors, your belief in God or your non-belief in Him, and the idea that God could be real or God could be fake. If God is real and you believe in Him, then you are destined for an eternity in heaven, which is a good thing. If God is fake and you believe in Him, well, then nothing really happens. The outcome isn’t affected.

Either way, if God is fake and you do not believe in Him, then the same thing happens, and the outcome is left the same with no net gain or loss. However, if you do not believe in God and God is real, then that is an eternity in hell. Therefore, it makes sense in every equation to believe in God rather than not since your options are either heaven or nothing happening.

So, how does this apply to Roko’s Basilisk? Well, if you’re thinking I’m comparing Roko’s Basilisk to the idea of a God, that’s because I am. The idea behind it is that this AI would be so powerful it would be near that of a deity. Therefore, your judgment, be it good or bad, entirely rests on it. Put it this way, if Roko’s Basilisk isn’t real and you don’t help it, then nothing happens, just like if you were to try to help it but it isn’t real, again nothing happens. However, if it is real and you don’t help it, then yeah, crazy hell computer torture forever. But if you do help it, then you survive. Therefore, looking at it from the Pascal’s Wager principle, it is always beneficial for you to help it.

I also want to emphasize here that I don’t necessarily believe in this. I’m explaining how the thought experiment works. You may be sitting there thinking to yourself, “Well, if I simply don’t believe in it, and it’s never going to happen, then why waste any of my time with it?” Because if I choose not to do anything about it, and everyone else makes that choice, it’s not going to be real. But that’s where Newcomb’s Paradox comes in.

Newcomb’s Paradox works like this: say I have two boxes, box one and box two. You can see inside of box one, and inside of it is a thousand dollars. You can’t see inside of box two, but I tell you that it either has zero dollars in it or a million dollars in it. Your two options are you can either take just box two or both box one and box two.

Obviously, this answer is obvious. You would take both boxes because if box two has zero dollars in it, you get a thousand dollars. If box two has a million dollars in it, you get one million one thousand dollars. But let’s throw a wrench in it. Let’s say that I am a magic genie who 100 percent of the time can guess which of those options you’ll take. And I say this: if I make a prediction that you will take both boxes, and without telling you, there I put zero dollars into box two. If I make a prediction that you will just take box two, then I put a million dollars into box two.

So basically, with my magic genie powers and predicting which of the choices you will take, now this still should be pretty easy because if I am right 100 percent of the time and say you choose to Additionally, the concept of Roko’s Basilisk raises ethical questions about the development of AI and the potential consequences of creating a superintelligent being. As AI technology continues to advance, it is important to consider the potential risks and benefits of its development and use.

In conclusion, Roko’s Basilisk is a thought experiment that explores the potential consequences of creating a superintelligent AI. While the concept may seem far-fetched, it raises important ethical questions about the development of AI and the potential risks and benefits that come with it. As AI technology continues to advance, it is crucial to consider these issues and carefully weigh the potential consequences of creating a superintelligent being.

Thank you Wendigoon! And thatnks to the reddit community!

Thanks, Nils David Olofsson

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Klaus Schwaub is one of the Cultural Marxists that that propagate and severe decrease in population, prohibit property ownership and create something similar to the hells-capes described in the books 1984 “Brave New Word”.


Reminder to any sane person: The book 1984 by George Orwell was NOT intended and a instructions maknual.


AwakenWithJP: My special guest in this exclusive interview today is none other than mr Klaus Schwab, founder and chairman of the world economic forum. Mr Schwab i’ve been a big fan of your work for a while now so I’m very pleased to have this opportunity to be talking with you.

Schwab: It’s my great honour.

AwakenWithJP: Thanks bro I’m honoured that you’re honoured now you’re someone who no one in their right mind would ever let babies sit their children yet trusting you to shape the future of humanity is something I think we’re all on board with and your work is incredibly altruistic so what is it that you see that the world needs that you’re trying to provide.

Schwab: I see the need for a great reset

AwakenWithJP: Klaus you’re just being modest I think it’ll be a tremendous reset it’s a big service to humanity as such is there a dilemma about the great reset that keeps you up at night?

Schwab: How can we do it to make sure that a majority of people are benefiting from it and not just a minority.

AwakenWithJP: Well i think if there’s a person that the common people rely on to stand up for them against the agenda of the elites it’s you Klaus Schwab tell me about your connection to the deep state.

Schwab: Intrinsically connected to one another (inaudible)

AwakenWithJP: I don’t think you just said actual words but I like your confidence and I notice your eyes look like they’re almost closed because your shitty face is so droopy and some people with what’s called evidence have suggested that you’ve orchestrated how you say the global pandemic and they don’t like it how do you feel about your orchestration of this?

Schwab: What I’m maybe most proud of in my life.

AwakenWithJP: I like how you just own it.

Schwab: We know the health industries the digital industry will go out of this crisis strengthened.

AwakenWithJP: What a weird coincidence that the industries you control have profited so much huh well I’m wondering and just to give you context some of the historic greats have had quotes that people always think of when they hear their names like Jesus do unto others as you’d have done to yourself the buddha this too shall pass Gandhi be the change you wish to see in the world and with you by you’ll own nothing and be happy about it very inspirational i might add what’s your motive behind such profound words?

Schwab: this is an opportunity again to find solutions uh which are beneficial for the next generation

AwakenWithJP: I do see how only nothing would be very beneficial to the next generation it’s kind of like mandatory poverty well not for you but for them kind of takes the stress out of wondering will I be successful or not and I like that but how do you think the next generation will feel about it?

Schwab: so um we have to prepare for a more angry world.

AwakenWithJP: Yeah sounds like they’ll love it moving along you’ve advocated for a global digital health pass what does that mean?

Schwab: we provide everybody with decent access to the health system.

AwakenWithJP: My notes say you’ve never been elected to be in charge of the health care system nor have you been elected to be in charge of everyone for that matter um must be a typo on my end guys could we get this corrected sorry about that sir it’s very embarrassing let’s just move on now Klaus Schwab you’ve said to never let a good crisis go to waste and you’ve definitely capitalized on your covert crisis do you have plans for another crisis perhaps an even bigger one?

Schwab: The environmental crisis the climate crisis could be a much bigger one.

AwakenWithJP: Can’t wait

Schwab: however we do know that global energy systems food systems and supply chains will be deeply affected.

AwakenWithJP: There are no coincidences are there Klaus Schwab and I wonder who will affect these things and why you know so far in advance that they’ll be affected what do you know about adrenochrome?

Schwab: The way I saw it young people was the most important

AwakenWithJP: That sounds terrible how’s that work.

Schwab: So many young people really in key positions.

AwakenWithJP: Ah gross to be honest with you I don’t really approve but it’s probably just a cultural difference between humans and reptiles. schwabski your narrative says a lot about helping people and bettering their lives while those who believe in the conspiracy theory called reality see your actions as ones that hurt people and make their lives worse.

Schwab: And i think we shouldn’t see the two as contradictory objectives

AwakenWithJP: Good point I see a square peg fits perfectly in the round hole accordingly you’ve talked before about genetically editing the population and your top advisor dr Voah Hirari has talked about you elites building digital dictatorships by hacking humans and re-engineering life for those at home let’s take a

Schwab: Look the difference of this first industrial revolution is it doesn’t change what you are doing it changes you if you take a genetic editing
data might enable human elites to do something even more radical than just build digital dictatorships by hacking organisms elites may gain the power to re-engineer the future of life itself but soon at least some corporations and governments will be able to systematically hack all the people so Klaus Schwab given what you and your advisor have said how do you feel about controlling every person on the planet I'm so happy dude that's pretty heavy enslaving humanity I bet you were never held as a child not even once but here's what I'm wondering if enslaving humanity is your goal you can't just tell them what you're doing or else they wouldn't take your injections and use your digital ids you'd have to call it something else to disguise it something benign or even inspiring so do you have an alias for what you call your human enslavement project it's a force industry revolution that's a great name for it it sounds progressive I'm on board let's dive deeper because I like where we're going here so to control people you'd have to get them to depend on you and all the governments that you control and we all know that the only way for the few to control the many is with fear and I know you're big on helping people by fear-mongering about your climate crisis so how do you see all that fitting together.

Schwab: Why not to tie government aid to the green economy which we have to create?

AwakenWithJP: Oh a social credit score that sounds super sweet but to your question why not tie government aid to the green economy which we have to create that’s a great question and i’m happy to share first creating a society where people have to rely on government aid is called communism and people with a soul see that as evil and it’s caused horror and suffering of the time it’s been implemented throughout history and I think your green economy vision is just a virtuous sounding scheme to manipulate people with fear into being controllable rather than you having genuine concern for potential planetary changes due to carbon emissions so when you look at it that way that’s why not to tie government aid to the green economy that we don’t have to create that’s a good looking shirt by the way.

Schwab: In times of crisis the role of governments is more important and more relevant than ever.

Well not if it’s the government’s causing the crisis in order to form a one-world government but oh who’s your all-time favorite government leader you’re colluding with in order to cause times of crisis?

Schwab: His excellency xi jinping.

he is excellent isn’t he I love all the genocide he’s doing this has been a beautiful interview but before we end it’s time for the lightning round Klaus Schwab if you were a kitchen appliance what would you be?

Schwab: I, I think

You’d be a sink I totally get it with a personality and all do you get more excited about citizens shaping the future or the governments you control shaping the future

Schwab: for governments shaping the future

you are a communist that’s awesome well Klaus Schwab thank you for taking the time to sit down and open up in such a beautiful vulnerable honest way. i’m walking away feeling inspired to be more obedient surrender my free will and I even feel more terror. Thank you Klaus Schwab I hope you have a great reset, I’m off, now i’ve got some reading to do

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